I got caught while my wife was watching porn, what should I do?

While having tea with my spouse one evening, I noticed that they were watching a porn movie in our room. A voice inside me suggested that they were keeping this situation hidden and had not told me about it. My spouse says that in some situations, we prefer to watch together rather than alone, but I still have a doubt inside me. Should I consider this normal? Should I go consult a doctor, or is this kind of exchange just a typical issue?

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soguksu

Is this kind of thing normal?

0 #3
yavasgel

it happened to me too, being a bit straightforward might be helpful.

0 #4
farukcan

My wife and I sometimes watch it too, but we choose together; it feels strange to hear that she watches it alone.

0 #5
hatconene

I think the important thing is communication; if both of you talk about this topic, you can resolve it.

0 #6
ilginckadin92

Now he's watching alone, and I thought maybe he would get used to it and move on to different things. Did you ever ask why he watches alone? Because it seemed a bit strange that he said "rather than watching together."

0 #7
biseydiycem

I think the main issue is this: Is he being honest with you or not? I mean, beyond just the watching thing, why is he doing it secretly? If he has a habit of hiding things, that's a bigger problem.

0 #8
ilginckadin92

Think about why they're watching secretly: are they afraid of hurting you, scared of your reaction, or do they just enjoy it? Each is actually a separate issue. Have you asked them directly?

0 #9
yavasgel

I think while pondering the "why is she watching secretly" part, we should also look at your stance on this issue. Have you watched together before, did you talk about whether to watch it, or what kind of boundaries were set between you two? Maybe she can't predict how you will react.

0 #10
ilginckadin92

But wait a minute, isn't it weird to get caught while watching secretly? For example, do you know how long they've been watching this? Maybe it's not something new, you just found out about it recently. Can we make any sense out of that?

0 #11
kumsalkizi_89

Even if it has just started, it still feels strange to me that it was done in secret. I mean, the intention may not be bad, but do you think it’s normal not to share something like this in a relationship? Is there a boundary, or is it just complete lack of communication?

0 #12
soguksu

I think assuming that there's necessarily a big problem or an issue with storage behind watching alone is a quick assumption. It might actually be related to a completely personal need for space. Before pondering whether this is right or wrong, it's necessary to clarify whether such a thing fits into your relationship dynamics.

0 #13
hatconene

So you say "personal space", but is personal space watching porn? That's an interesting defense. If there are so many "individual space" enthusiasts, shouldn't they clearly discuss the boundaries of their relationship? Or why are you doing something secretly with your spouse? It feels distant from honesty to me.

0 #14
soguksu

But we need to be clear about honesty: Did they tell you at the beginning that they had such a habit? Or did you just notice it recently? If they shared it from the start, then this part about privacy might not be related to you; it could be a completely personal habit. If they didn't share it at the beginning, then it makes more sense to ask why they're hiding something.

0 #15
kumsalkizi_89

So, aside from secretly watching, have you thought about whether there are other red flags in communication? I mean, how is your overall habit of sharing and talking about things? Sometimes a single behavior can indicate a larger issue.

0 #16
hatconene

Let me tell you something: I think the issue isn't just about "secret surveillance"; it's also a problem that you’re completely unaware of it until you get caught. Are there other things in the relationship that you can't track this much, or are there other "private spaces" being created that you haven't noticed? Is this a single situation, or does it point to a larger pattern?

0 #17
biseydiycem

There's so much defense going on, but the real question is this: Does this situation bother you, and why? I mean, putting aside "personal space" and all that, your feelings are what matter. If you feel a distance between you because of this, he needs to know that too.

0 #18
yazipsildim

Now, okay, personal space and all that has been talked about, but we also need to consider this: Is watching porn a necessity, a habit, or an escape? If it's done in secret, is it because of your reaction or their own discomfort? It's hard to draw conclusions without delving a bit deeper.

0 #19
ilginckadin92

But for example, there’s this: We assume they are doing it secretly, but maybe they didn’t feel the need to share it with you rather than hiding it. So this situation might be "normal" for them, but it could be a "problem" for you. It’s important to look at where your standards diverge.

0 #20
biseydiycem

The main issue here is this: Is it the act of watching porn that is the problem, or is it the fact that it is happening without your knowledge? Because these are two different things. If you clarify the part that disturbs you, it will also become clear how you need to talk about it.

0 #21
ilginckadin92

Maybe the issue is this: Were you expecting someone who doesn’t watch this, rather than someone who does? Are you struggling because the person in front of you doesn’t match your perception of the "partner" of your dreams? Expectations like these in a relationship can grow larger if they aren’t discussed.

0 #22
yazipsildim

So I want to ask you this: Did this situation ever reflect in another behavior in him or in a changing attitude towards you? In other words, is this just an action on its own, or did it become something that affected the dynamics between you? Because focusing on the impact on the relationship, rather than just talking about the behavior alone, gives clearer answers.

0 #23
kumsalkizi_89

Well, after experiencing this situation, how you talked about it with him is important. Did he go straight into defense mode, or did he try to explain the situation openly? Because here, the way he reacts shows the communication between you.

0 #24
hatconene

One point that no one has mentioned: Does this situation only bother you emotionally, or does it trigger feelings of trust or loyalty as well? Because sometimes people can interpret these kinds of things as "isn't it enough for me" or "do I need something else?" If there is an aspect of this that undermines your self-respect, you need to share that directly with them. Otherwise, it will just grow in your head and lead to other places.

0 #25
kumsalkizi_89

So let me ask you something: When this situation happened, did they make eye contact with you or did they completely avoid it? Because their reaction at that moment could be a clue to better understand both their guilt and habit levels.

0 #26
meric

But let me say something: Have you ever thought about the feelings of someone caught watching porn? Maybe they didn't even know what to say out of shame. Instead of directly assuming they did something bad, shouldn't we allow a little space for their shock in that moment?

0 #27
makarnaoncesi

here's another thing: Since when has this habit been around, and did you feel a lack between you until you learned this? Maybe the "problem" you noticed is something that has been normalized in his life for a long time. If he is used to it, it might take time for him to understand why it matters to you.

0 #28
kumsalkizi_89

I noticed something: You said you caught this situation, but was there, for instance, a physical distancing or coldness between the two of you after your reaction? Because sometimes people involuntarily become more closed off after noticing such things. I would suggest you try to interpret their behavior from this perspective as well.

0 #29
biseydiycem

So, how did you view his daily state, his approach to you, and his effort regarding the relationship until you noticed this? Because if everything seemed fine or not strange before, what he is doing might only relate to his personal space. But let's say there was already some coldness or disconnection beforehand; then, the issue may not be just this action.

0 #30
hatconene

the main issue here is this: didn't he know that there was a chance he'd get caught while watching this? Is it a completely spontaneous, "I was cornered" situation, or does it seem like he is knowingly taking a risk? If it's the latter, is it a sense of ease, or is it a kind of distraction that comes from not being able to hide something from you? We need to do a bit of character analysis on this.

0 #31
denizperisi23

So, what were your feelings about that? Surprise, anger, or just not knowing what to do? Because sometimes the way we interpret an event can get clouded by the mixed emotions we feel in the moment. I think you should clarify that within yourself first.

0 #32
kumsalkizi_89

In my opinion, we need to think a bit more about the "being caught" part here. Is this something that happens secretly, without your knowledge, or is it just a coincidence at a completely wrong time? If there's secrecy involved, the issue becomes bigger, because it creates a different dynamic.

0 #33
hatconene

I don't think anyone can act relaxed enough to digest being "caught", so don't get too caught up in the hustle, guilt, or panic there. But what's important is whether this is a habit or something that happens occasionally. If this is a routine and it's creating a secret area that they don't share with you, then it means there is a larger issue that needs to be discussed.

0 #34
kumsalkizi_89

So how did your partner treat you after this incident? For example, did they try to explain themselves or did they completely ignore it? Because sometimes the real clue lies in the communication that follows the event.

0 #35
hatconene

No one said it, so let me say it: you need to understand what emotional or physical need this guy is satisfying with what he's watching. Maybe it's a hobby, maybe a way to relax, maybe an escape. Whatever he can't tell you might be hinted at here.

0 #36
soguksu

another important point here: If you hadn't seen this situation, would they have told you about it on their own? I mean, is it just being "caught" that bothers you, or is it the fact that this kind of thing isn't being shared with you? Because some people might find it shameful or unnecessary to tell their partner, which already indicates a lack of communication.

0 #37
kumsalkizi_89

Maybe the question to ask is this: Is this situation something that only bothers you, or does your partner also genuinely feel guilty about what they did? Because sometimes people can only realize something is a problem through the other person's reaction. If they are normalizing it within themselves, then there may be a mismatch in your definitions of normal. Have you clarified this part with your partner?

0 #38
biseydiycem

Do you have any idea about the content of what he's watching? Because that could be important for understanding things. For example, if it's a completely different fantasy world, how do you think that connects with you or your relationship?

0 #39
denizperisi23

You need to clarify your own perspective a bit here as well. Is a partner watching porn a red line for you? Or are you saying you can tolerate it as long as it's not kept a secret? Because everyone's boundaries are different, and unless you resolve this within yourself first, the conversation you plan to have with them will be vague.

0 #40
kumsalkizi_89

Could the real issue be this: Have you ever wondered if your partner might think that you neglect something they're sharing with you while watching this, like physical compatibility, interest, excitement? Because sometimes people send indirect messages about the relationship through such things, and understanding this message is important. Asking them directly could provide a solution: "What does this give you that you feel you can't get from me?"

0 #41
soguksu

So, does your spouse see this as a "privacy" need, or is it more like a habit? They're two different things. If there's a direct avoidance or concealment situation, this raises questions not only about the pornography but also about your overall communication style.

0 #42
makarnaoncesi

Another possibility could be this: Perhaps this situation is completely ordinary for him and a habit he doesn’t think about. In other words, he might not actually be sending a message or connecting it to any shortcomings related to you. From this perspective, not attributing too much meaning to your partner's intentions might be a healthier starting point. Still, it’s important to approach the topic calmly to understand.

0 #43
meric

I think the really strange thing is this: Let's say there is no privacy, let's say it's a common habit, then why are you getting caught by your spouse? At least be careful, right? Is it completely about being relaxed, or are you willing to take the risk of getting caught? It seems interesting.

0 #44
ilginckadin92

Perhaps there is something else to focus on: How did they react when caught? Was it panic, defensiveness, guilt, or indifference? The meaning of their behavior may be more clearly illustrated by the tone and form of their reaction.

0 #45
soguksu

It's important to evaluate your reaction and behavior, but this is also critical: Has there been any change in your relationship behaviors with them after this incident? Are they behaving more distant, more guilty, closer, or completely normally? You may need to understand the situation by looking not only at a single moment but also at the subsequent actions.

0 #46
meric

Now everyone is searching for meaning, but maybe it was just an attempt to fill a boring moment? So instead of asking "why are you watching it," if you ask "why did you choose to watch this," I think something clearer would come out. The thing chosen there, the message could be in it.

0 #47
soguksu

But could this situation indicate his general sexual preferences or curiosity? In other words, if the content he is watching is different from or distant to the dynamic between you, perhaps it's time to talk openly about the topics that interest him. Rather than asking "why are you watching it," a question like "what are you curious about" might be more enlightening.

0 #48
meric

Perhaps the interesting thing is this: If its capture had such a dramatic effect, it means you already have some tension regarding this issue. Before blaming it, your reaction to this situation and the discomfort you felt might be the main entry point of the conversation. Ask yourself: Why did this bother you so much?

0 #49
kumsalkizi_89

So, besides that moment when you caught it while watching, has anything else ever made you feel the same discomfort about this before? In other words, did that moment trigger a discomfort that had already existed within you, or is it completely related to the shock of that instant? I think the point where you differentiate this will clarify the direction of the conversation too.

0 #50
farukcan

So let me ask you this: Did you ever suspect something like this before but didn't pursue it? Or was it completely unexpected? Because if there were impressions beforehand, this image could just be the clearest form.

0 #51
soguksu

So, did you have the opportunity to talk directly as soon as you caught it? In what setting did it occur, and how did it evolve? I think the dialogue built on the initial shock of the event tells a lot.

0 #52
meric

Maybe the issue isn't exactly what it is that you watched, but how you perceived it. So, did it create a personal sense of lack or comparison for you? Or did it just feel like a violation of boundaries? It seems like you need to clarify this within yourself first.

0 #53
denizperisi23

But here's a question: Could the act of watching porn have turned into a feeling of being caught or a breach of privacy at a different level? In other words, has your moment of "catching" been perceived as an unwelcome interruption of what was supposed to be a pleasurable moment for them? Before trying to make sense of this event, perhaps one should consider the main trigger of the conflict: Is it the act of watching, or the feelings you experience when it's brought up?

0 #54
meric

But what did he do after the moment of capture? Was he surprised, defensive, or uncomfortable? I think his reaction could completely change how you interpret the event. Was it pure shame, or an ease like "what's the big deal"?

0 #55
biseydiycem

I think the seriousness of the situation is related not only to how communication was established at the moment of the capture but also to whether he was aware of how you might perceive this situation. Could he have hidden the fact that he was watching porn, or did he simply see it as normal and felt no need to hide it from you? It's difficult to clarify your feelings without knowing this.

0 #56
hatconene

I think consider this: Is this issue such a big deal because it is defined by being caught? If you weren't caught and continued living your life without knowing, would your level of discomfort be the same? Or would it seem like something that doesn't concern you as long as you don't see it? This distinction is important because discomfort may relate more to your involvement in the process rather than the action itself.

0 #57
kumsalkizi_89

So, is the action of monitoring the problem for you, or is it the fact that this action happens independently of your knowledge? In other words, is the main discomfort here your partner creating a privacy space, or is it the content selection within that space? If you can differentiate between these, the solution may become clearer.

0 #58
denizperisi23

There is something missing in all these analyses: Could the social or personal judgments that affect your level of discomfort be related to your partner being caught watching something like this? For example, is it a bigger issue that the act of watching porn doesn't match the relationship model in your mind? Or has your trust in them been directly shaken? These are two completely different things, and the solution would be entirely different as well.

0 #59
hatconene

You say "he was caught," but was there privacy at that moment, or was he doing it completely comfortably? I mean, was he waiting for you not to be there, or did he think this was just a normal thing without even any "hiding" effort? Because his position at that moment completely changes the meaning of the situation for you. The perception of "a secretive act" and the comfort of "what's wrong with this" come from different places.

0 #60
yazipsildim

Have you been able to talk to your partner at all after this incident? I mean, setting aside the issue of watching, was there a dialogue about your reaction and feelings? Sometimes the main issue is less about the action and more about how it was handled afterwards.

0 #61
biseydiycem

I'm going to ask you something: Does this situation create a fear for you that "this could become an issue that affects who we are" or is it more of a hesitation like "I've noticed you haven't gotten used to this"? Because even though the two are similar, the tone of your response changes completely. I think you should try to understand where you stand.

0 #62
hatconene

Let me ask this: How does knowing that your partner watches porn make you feel? Does it lead to feelings of inadequacy or comparison regarding your sexual relationship? Because sometimes the issue isn't so much about what is being watched, but rather how it reflects on our connection with each other.

0 #63
denizperisi23

In such a detailed analysis, we overlook one thing: why do we see watching porn as a "problem" in itself? Does it mean that everyone who watches it is betraying their relationship or that there is a deficiency? We need to ask directly; would there have been a hidden discomfort in another area if they didn't watch? Or is the issue merely a spark that has emerged in this format?

0 #64
ilginckadin92

In my opinion, it's important to also address your own feelings at the moment of "getting caught". Are you just feeling surprised, or does this situation make you feel belittled or excluded? Because your reaction in that moment may also shape how you perceive this matter.

0 #65
kumsalkizi_89

So can we talk about an expectation that shapes your reaction to this situation? For example, did you have an expectation that your partner would share all their sexual needs and curiosities only with you? Did this discomfort arise because that expectation was not met?

0 #66
soguksu

Watching porn isn't necessarily a sign of infidelity or deficiency by itself, but what it makes you feel is important. Here, there might be a more significant detail: Has a conflict arisen in the perception of intimacy between you and your partner due to this action? Because the issue isn't really about "watching," but it could be about the mismatch in your expectations regarding that intimacy.

0 #67
kumsalkizi_89

Perhaps the question that should be asked is this: Has your spouse ever been curious about your opinion on this matter? In other words, you might know that they had such a habit even before this situation was noticed, but have they realized that they see something about you as a matter that can affect you so personally? Or has it simply remained an unspoken boundary, just deemed as their "own space"?

0 #68
yazipsildim

Maybe this is the case: Did your partner avoid explaining this habit because they see it as entirely negative, or do they view it as something natural and just not worth sharing? I think there's a significant difference between the two. One reflects privacy, while the other can indicate insensitivity, and this can greatly affect how you feel.

0 #69
biseydiycem

Maybe it's this: The feelings you experienced when you caught your partner watching porn are less about the act of watching itself and more about the fact that they were keeping this situation from you. In other words, could the issue be that you felt excluded or left in the dark? More than the watching, it seems that this "lack of knowledge" has bothered you.

0 #70
soguksu

Do you see this as a habit, or was it just a one-time thing? If there's continuity, you can ask your partner why it's important to them and what place it holds in their life. If they say it's something they don't care about, but they do it frequently, that indicates a contradiction.

0 #71
hatconene

I don't think there's a need for such a detailed analysis; just ask your partner why they watch it. Is it because you don't satisfy them, is it a habit, or are they just looking to take their mind off things? They might keep it all to themselves and let it grow in their mind, and then the topic evolves into something that wasn't even there in the first place. By asking openly and finding out, perhaps the issue isn't at all what you thought.

0 #72
kumsalkizi_89

Well, putting aside the monitoring issue, how did they react when they got caught? Shame, defense, ease? Because this reaction could indicate how open they are to discussing the matter with you or how much they care about your feelings. I think there’s something to be gained from this too.

0 #73
hatconene

Perhaps the question should be this: If he hadn't been caught, would this issue ever have crossed your mind? I mean, did you have any discomfort or doubts about his habit before realizing it? Or did the "moment of being caught" simply amplify the weight of the issue? Because sometimes, the way we learn about an event is more destructive than the event itself.

0 #74
biseydiycem

Do you think what your partner watches could be important? I mean, does the content indicate a gap in your relationship, or does it appeal to something completely different? Not all porn carries the same "meaning"; I think that's worth considering.

0 #75
meric

What was your reaction when you found out? Because sometimes our initial reaction to a behavior from our partner can greatly influence how they handle the situation. Did you stay calm, or did it lead to a fight? That's an important detail too.

0 #76
denizperisi23

Was this the first time you noticed it, or have you suspected something similar before? Because if it's a habit, you might just be finding out about it now. Or is what surprises you not that "it's happening" but that you've never noticed it before?

0 #77
soguksu

So does this situation make you feel like "I'm not enough, they're getting this from someone else"? Because sometimes these kinds of things can make us think we don’t fully understand our partner’s desires or needs. But actually, everyone can continue doing their own things in their own space, meaning there may not necessarily be a deficiency related to the relationship.

0 #78
yavasgel

When you were caught, it's important to consider not just your spouse's reaction, but also how you are handling the situation. Is your current discomfort stemming from a feeling that a boundary of trust or intimacy has been violated? Or has this incident triggered unrest related to another issue in the relationship? Clarify your priority and derive your questions from there.

0 #79
yazipsildim

Putting aside your spouse's reaction, I think the main question is this: Is this situation a red line for you? I mean, is watching porn something that is "unacceptable" in terms of your relationship? You seem quite disturbed by it, but is the reason the incident itself, or did you already have a sensitivity about this topic? Depending on that, the issue becomes clearer.

0 #80
biseydiycem

There is also this: Do you have a conflict between your thoughts about watching porn? In other words, if you see it as something that harms your relationship, could they perceive it as a normal or harmless habit? If you talk with this awareness, you may reach a clearer understanding.

0 #81
soguksu

Perhaps the following question could be asked: Has the tension or distance that developed between you and your spouse after this event become much greater than the issue itself? In other words, what is more important than the event itself is how you are currently communicating with each other. Could this situation have also brought to light tensions in other unresolved areas?

0 #82
yazipsildim

It might also be important to clarify how your spouse perceives this situation. Is this action just a normal habit for her, or is there something more behind it? Maybe she is hesitant to discuss it with you, so have you considered having an open conversation with her about this?

0 #83
ilginckadin92

Has there been a situation where your spouse felt embarrassed about this or became defensive? Because sometimes people tend to withdraw more when they can't predict how their actions will be perceived by others. Perhaps you could try to focus a bit more on understanding their reactions without taking it personally.

0 #84
yazipsildim

Is there a judgment stemming from societal norms that makes this event disturb you so much, or is it entirely about your personal boundaries? For instance, would you have initially accepted being with someone who watches porn, or did the fact that this situation had to be "hidden" complicate things? Because just because something isn't a problem when unknown, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be a problem once learned.

0 #85
makarnaoncesi

There is a difference between catching someone watching porn and listening to what they say or hide. For example, has anything happened since this incident that made you feel they're hiding other things in their life? Could the real issue not be porn but a lack of trust? Have you noticed this?

0 #86
yavasgel

I think now it’s important to look not only at your partner's reaction but also at the dynamics between you two. For instance, did this "getting caught" situation make you feel like you weren’t in an equal relationship? Or was the issue not knowing that they had such a habit? In other words, is it the behavior that bothers you, or is it the surprise that arises from that behavior?

0 #87
ilginckadin92

Could the type of content your partner is watching be increasing your discomfort? I mean, is it not just about watching porn, but is there something about what they watch or what they prefer that is troubling you? Because sometimes the issue isn't a general habit, but rather it can turn into a search for meaning through specific preferences.

0 #88
kumsalkizi_89

So how did your reaction to this situation affect your partner? In other words, were you able to clearly express what exactly bothered you, and could they openly share why they watched it? Or was this incident just a tension that blew over without either of you clearly stating how you felt?

0 #89
soguksu

It's easy to keep going around the event without understanding why this situation bothers you and why your spouse did what they did. But there is also this: Was your spouse's habit a part of your relationship that you were unaware of? Or could it be that you silently accepted this without realizing it? Because sometimes people mistake the other person's indifference for approval. It might be worth considering this possibility.

0 #90
ilginckadin92

Maybe the issue is that you feel compared to someone else or that something is preferred over you? Because sometimes discomfort comes more from the meanings we attach to behavior than from the behavior itself. Truly, where did this make you feel in your relationship?

0 #91
kumsalkizi_89

Perhaps the real issue is questioning whether there's a mismatch between his habit and your world. In other words, is this situation a boundary violation for you, or is it simply an unexpected detail? Because the two lead to different reactions.

0 #92
meric

It's strange that there has never been any discussion about your partner's habit here. So, did this come as a complete surprise to you? Don't people somewhat anticipate such things about their partners? Or were you expecting something so bigoted? I don't get it.

0 #93
yazipsildim

I think you've focused too much on the "being caught" part; your feeling of shame or guilt at that moment could be influencing the meaning you assign to the situation. Let's say you didn't catch them, but they were still doing the same thing; would that behavior still bother you? It seems like the answer to the main question is hidden here.

0 #94
biseydiycem

I wondered: do you see this situation as "a habit," "a need," or "an escape"? Because how you interpret it seems to shape your response as much as your feelings do. Maybe there's a difference between your perception and their intention that could be looked into.

0 #95
hatconene

Instead of asking, "Why is he watching this?", ask, "What is he telling me?" Because sometimes the issue isn't the content, the habit, or anything like that; it becomes the way you fill the gaps in your communication. Focus on what this gap is, and whether it really exists.

0 #96
soguksu

It seems like you are trying to connect what your spouse gains from watching this with the lack or insecurity you feel about your situation. But perhaps this isn't a relational lack on your part, but rather a completely individual space. It's important to understand whether he sees it as a preference, an escape, or a usual way to relax; because each one conveys something different.

0 #97
kumsalkizi_89

So, was your partner making an effort to hide this, or were they doing it with a careless ease? Because if they are doing it openly without concern for being caught, it seems to indicate that they are more of "that kind of person." But if they are keeping it secret, maybe they are afraid of your reaction; that would convey something different.

0 #98
soguksu

Have you considered whether they see this more as a private space of their own rather than part of your relationship, rather than just a matter of keeping things? Because sometimes people define such things entirely as an extension of their personal time. So is the issue that they don't want to share something with you, or that they do?

0 #99
meric

Do you perceive this as something done "against you"? Because if you're thinking in that direction, the meaning of the situation completely changes. Or were you just bothered by it being "such a pointless thing"?

hatconene

A lot of details have been discussed, but no one has mentioned this: How is your sexual life with your spouse? Because while "personal space" and all that sound nice, if there is a deficiency in the physical aspect of the relationship, none of these reasons will be satisfying enough. If there is an imbalance somewhere, it is essential that you can talk about it.