As an organized person, I have to live in a messy house!

I’m forced to live with my housemate, but they don’t care at all about cleaning. This has started to stress me out a lot; I have to face their mess every day. How should I approach them about this? Maybe it’s my impatience?

I wouldn’t leave it clean, let them see what stress looks like.

I experienced the same situation; now I only keep my own spaces clean. I left the common areas completely chaotic and measured the reaction. Honestly, there’s not much left behind.

Have you ever spoken properly? Maybe the poor guy isn’t even aware.

@soncaykaldi I actually mentioned my discomfort a few times, but not much has changed; sometimes they even respond in a dismissive or joking manner.

@aklimkaldi then why are you still living in the same place? You already seem to be annoyed. This is not something to endure unless you have to.

One thing I’ve heard: setting ‘cleaning days in rotation’ for common areas and leaving a little humorous note about the process can be effective. However, if the person’s personality is particularly insensitive, this may not yield results, so then a new arrangement should be considered.

@benbisorayim these people aren’t going to change with a note or anything, sorry. You know, it should be shown like a broom, I won’t pull it.

How much does the house pollute or how does it distribute it, is there a specific example? Maybe some things are normal for them but excessive for you. One person’s understanding of cleanliness might not align with another’s, first check if the boundaries are clear.

There is an acceptable level of mess, and then there’s the kind of mess that falls on you like an avalanche. Is there courage in the midst of it, or is it total “abandonment”? For example, do you clear the dishes weekly, or is there a moment when you’re holding a Marlboro, and behind you, the ‘Messy Homes’ soundtrack is playing? Let’s clarify.

I think those laughs and dismissals are already the summary of the situation. They don’t see it as a serious concern because, according to them, you can “handle it.” For a while, don’t touch it at all and let’s see who will come crashing down on you like an avalanche.

It makes sense to avoid touching it for a while, but sometimes that doesn’t work, because some people continue to live even under that snow. So the “threshold for discomfort” can be very low. For example, have you considered that those dishes might pile up, start to smell, yet still not be cared about? Then a more direct conversation is necessary, because the issue might not just be a habit, but an attitude as well.

Yes, the issue of this discomfort threshold is correct, but sometimes the situation is not just about the understanding of cleanliness; it can also be a general case of “procrastinating life.” In other words, clutter is not the cause, it’s actually the result. If someone has let things go this much, what else might be shaking in their life?

Maybe it’s not “cleaning reluctance,” but a protest against something else. In other words, making a mess or not tidying up could actually be an expression of inner unrest. So what if that’s the case? Are there any details that would make it noticeable?

I think things like “protest clean-up” are overloading the meaning. Maybe it’s just plain laziness or a lack of decorum? Let’s not tie every mess to psychology; sometimes it simply means they “aren’t doing it.”

I think there’s no need to exaggerate some things too much, but sometimes a person’s mood can indeed be connected to cleanliness. Maybe talking about it is more important at first; there might be more going on than you think. Habits can only take you so far, but this attitude issue can be a bit annoying.

But what if the job is not about “comfort” at all, but rather a pure power play? I mean, could it be that they assign you the role of the “cleaner” while completely distancing themselves from this role? It’s almost like they’re controlling the area by spreading chaos everywhere
 The part about what happens if you don’t clean up is crucial, because they might actually be testing your boundaries as well.

When you are tidy, his messiness becomes more noticeable. Maybe he is reflecting his discomfort back to you by making a mess of the house. Have you ever thought about whether you would stay this tidy if you were alone? Sometimes living together even blurs one’s own boundaries.

I noticed something: could your effort to stay organized amidst all this mess be a kind of “need for control”? That is, as you try to control things, there might be a dynamic where they let go even more. Perhaps the real issue is not cleanliness but rather how much each person is interfering in each other’s space. Do you think there is a “who’s dominant” situation here?

This situation really does carry many dynamics. Perhaps it’s not just the messiness, but there is a communication problem between the two of you. After all, the state of the home also affects a person’s mood. Maybe it’s time to add some deeper thinking into the mix.